THE GLADIATOR

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  wow that just hit me like a ton of bricks

  by cptkirk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just hit me why none of you have a clue as to who i am or what to make of me.

  you are all completely foreigners lol...wow that is like crazy as shit.

  most of you have not even a clue as to east coast hardcore new york philly personality types, esp of xy generation.

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  Hi ya Captain - Surprisingly for a gladiator , I live on the south coast of England . I have beamed down into many of the cities in planet America . Visiting the USA is like a star ship enterprise trip, seeing so many whacko Americans. They were always friendly, polite and keen to talk. People in New York were more guarded, as in kept to themselves. That tends to happen in all big cities.

  They kept asking me what I thought of their great country. I told them it still belonged to Britain - the United States of Anglia. Could be you were better off when Royal Britannia run your country and all the soldiers wore those smart red coats. Ah, the good old days!
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  No one who leaves "the truth" is ever happy?

  by El_Guapo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years, i was told this..... " anyone who leaves the org is bitter, sad, and worse off, why do you think they come back???

  guess what guys i am the opposite, now i quit cold-turkey (looking back, i should have faded correctly) i am planning on going to the memorial this month just to hear all "the friends" tell me how much they missed me.

  since i have left the meetings, (jan. was my last meeting, i think).

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  “No one who leaves "the truth" is ever happy?”

  Truth is absolute. It's not possible to leave the truth. Truth will follow you and pervade every moment of your life.

  Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the truth, just a pack of ever changing lies which are presented as the truth.

  So, leaving the Watchtower Society's is not the same as trying to leave the truth.
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  TEC Documentary hypothesis

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  continuing on our mini discussing at.

  http://jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/246435/8/greatest-show-on-earth#4664173.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/documentary_hypothesis.

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  Obviously, Christians will want to defend Jesus and the god of the bible whom they believe in.

  But it does seem rather pointless for atheists to spend time condemning a non-existent god for appearing to condone the behaviour of humans.

  To me, the unchecked barbarity of humans over tens of thousands of years, is proof that such a god, as described in the bible, does not exist.
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  Is claiming your baptism null and void an exit plan?

  by awakening in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have read some of you talking about baptism not being a legaly binding contract as, for most it was undertaken as a minor.

  has anyone successfuly nulled their baptism and exited free of consequence?.

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  jgnat Just a quick note of correction. The rituals and traditions followed within the walls of a church are not legally binding .

  Very true. I was onlt 13 when I was dunked; too young to make a legally binding decision.
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  My terminally ill friend will read this; please offer your love and support.

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends:.

  forty-five years ago i was out in service with an elder, and we came upon a house where the owners kindly received us.

  this was not so unusual as the family was jehovah's witnesses.

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  Why doesn't the WT ever see it's self as "Wicked"?

  by Deputy Dog in

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  2. beliefs

  in luke 11:13 jesus refers to his beloved deciples as wicked.

  the wt (and most jws) see themselves as faithful and discreet.

  they are teaching people to be self-righteous arent they?.

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  Good points moshe

  People seldom see themselves as evil - no matter what they do. They act as they do because they believe they are right. Hypothetically, the devil does not see himself as evil but as standing up for the right of men and women, from Eden onward, to decide for themselves what is good and what is evil.

  The devil is not alone in questioning the behaviour of the Hebrew desert god Jehovah. Despite the devil being called a liar in the Bible, I am unable to find a single incident of him lying. In contrast Jehovah told the first lie to Adam & Eve.

  As Jehovah's Witnesses adore Jehovah they are going to act just like him and see themselves as righteous. Personally, I have more respect for the devil.
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  Is trying to awaken a JW tantamount to "robbing him of his bliss"??

  by never a jw in

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  2. friends

  last thursday i was propmpted by a recent thread to read the daily text (feb 28, 2013).

  i then had the audacity to send a text message to all four jw's nephews/nieces (in their mid 20's).

  i offered my opinion by summarizing it "put and shut up".

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  Re: Is trying to awaken a JW tantamount to "robbing him of his bliss"?

  This is often a dilemma that applies to tolerance of other people beliefs, no matter what they are. Jehovah's Witnesses are only one group of magical thinkers. Is it best to let people find comfort in their beliefs, however bizarre, and allow them to remain unchallenged?

  Is it a kindness to not attempt to point out the contradictions? Should people’s cognitive dissidence be allowed to grow as we stand by and do nothing? If we see someone we care for being unduly influenced by someone, should we express our concern at the risk of attracting scorn, or do we walk by on the other side?

  I have tried it both ways and been punished for my efforts. I tend to keep quiet nowadays, but my restrained may not be a kindness in the long run. Perhaps ridiculous beliefs should be vigorously challenged.
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  TEC Documentary hypothesis

  by mP in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  continuing on our mini discussing at.

  http://jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/246435/8/greatest-show-on-earth#4664173.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/documentary_hypothesis.

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  'He wasn't terribly supportive of anything other than following him to heaven.'

  He supported the Hebrew desert god Jehovah.
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  IMPROMPTU APOSTAFEST in DFW area this Sunday Feb 24 1pm

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  sorry for the late notice.. this is an informal get together.

  barbecue and beverages guaranteed.

  all else you bring yourself.. .

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  Wish you all a great time together, shame I can't be there.

  I live in the UK and my private jet is being serviced that day.
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  Why I think (in a nutshell) why this org is approaching collapse

  by cptkirk in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in a nutshell: i think that (and i do not enjoy thinking about this)...i think that the crazies within the religion (who range from just low level people to co elder do and up) have won so many battles at this point (over the more balanced people/ideas)......that the people who tend to think in a more balanced fashion (whether they themselves be low level or higher up) are getting to be the real minority.

  i think this dynamic, will be what finally sinks the ship.. as we see with any organization (corporate or otherwise), many times there are reports that make you wonder (how is this thing alive or prospering?

  ), and upon closer scrutiny, there are strong people in the background holding the walls up (who themselves get little attention).

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